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EYE WITNESS REPORTS THAT……….

Brooklyn riot over teen’s death: 16-year-old shot by cops did not have a gun, says witness
Tishana King says she saw the whole incident from a bird’s eye view in her Brooklyn apartment. She says she’s ‘certain’ slain Kimani (Kiki) Gray ‘didn’t having anything in his hands.’

BY ROCCO PARASCANDOLA AND JOHN MARZULLI / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

PUBLISHED: WEDNESDAY, MARCH 13, 2013, 12:38 AM

TODD MAISEL/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
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Tishana King says she witnessed the shooting of Kimani Gray, 16, Sunday from her window and she says she saw no gun.
A Brooklyn woman who claims she had a “bird’s-eye view” of the fatal police shooting of 16-year-old Kimani (Kiki) Gray says the youth did not have a gun in his hand.

Tishana King is the only civilian eyewitness to come forward, and her account sharply differs from Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly’s assertion that Gray had pointed a .38-caliber revolver at the cops before they opened fire. “I’m certain he didn’t have anything in his hands,” King told the Daily News.

Moments after the Saturday shooting, one cop put both hands on his head and said, “ ‘Oh, God!’ ” King recalled. “His partner went over to him and put his hand on his shoulder and said, ‘Are you okay, buddy?’ ”

King, 39, a medical records clerk at Kings County Hospital, said she gave a tape-recorded interview to detectives several hours after the shooting. The detectives were aware her 14-year-old son dialed 911 from their apartment after the gunfire. But King, in her nearly eight-minute interview with NYPD investigators at 3 a.m. on Sunday, never said a word about whether Gray was carrying a gun.
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Kimani Gray, 16, was shot and killed by police on Sunday. Cops claim Gray had pointed a .38-caliber revolver before he was fired on.

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“I couldn’t see what the kids were doing,” she said during the session. The News reviewed the tape of the Q&A conducted in her apartment after the fatal shooting.

Detectives and Internal Affairs Bureau investigators never asked directly if King saw Gray with a gun, and a police source said NYPD policy precludes asking such leading questions.

“They’re just asked to say what happened in as much detail as they can remember,” the source said.

A loaded .38-caliber Rohm’s Industry revolver was recovered from the Brooklyn scene where Kimani Gray was killed. Cops claim Gray pointed the revolver at them, though a witness says the teen was unarmed.

A police spokesman said that when King was asked what she saw by detectives, she told them she couldn’t see what the boys were doing “from the angle I was at.”

But King told The News that, at first, the boys were under her window and that they moved into view when police got out of their car and approached them.

The NYPD has not released the names of the sergeant and cop who fired 11 shots. A police source said the pair initially reported to supervisors that the teen had pulled a gun — and a loaded weapon was recovered at the scene.

King told The News she was drawn to her third-floor East Flatbush window late Saturday night by the sound of loud laughing and talking outside on E. 52nd St.
She said she watched as a burgundy-colored sedan pulled up and a man jumped out of the passenger side, followed by the driver. King initially thought the duo intended to fight with the youths.RELATED: TEEN FATALLY SHOT BY POLICE IN BROOKLYN SATURDAY NIGHT
When the driver yelled, “Don’t move!” it clicked that they were cops, she said. “Kimani started backing up,” King said. “The cop took out his gun and started firing at Kimani.”
King said the area was illuminated by a streetlight and Gray appeared to be cornered by the cops. “His (Gray’s) hands were down,” she said. “I couldn’t believe he let off (fired) his gun. There was no reason. No false move.”
A police source said King never told detectives that Gray was backing up with his hands down.
Kelly said an “earwitness” heard a cop yell, “What do you have in your hands?” but a source said the man was too far away to see the confrontation. The shooting appeared to be within NYPD guidelines, he added.
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60 Responses to EYE WITNESS REPORTS THAT……….

  • Observer says:

    all mi caw tell ms king is dat she n fi har 14 yr old betta fine a nexx place fi live caw she naw hav no peace

  • JAHkno says:

    Afternoon every1

    uno wan c flatbush ova ya deh pon LOCK. I never trust none a dem police ya Brooklyn dem is di real criminal. The streets know d real story ol murderer dem.

  • Brightlight says:

    Regardless of Kimani’s rapsheet we cannot take on the same mentality as a racist pro-police newspaper and label this justice. There are holes here but because he is black and had a criminal record it is as if these bastards were justified.

    Remember, these aren’t regular police officers. These are under cover PLAIN CLOTHES detectives.

  • Observer says:

    @jahkno dem cannot fite fiyah wid fiyah caw di community will feel it

  • Anonymous says:

    Thanks bright light you really understand

  • Anonymous says:

    Justice will be served bout Kiki pull out gun fag ass cops

  • Toni Ann says:

    Evening Met, Evening Metters.

    I really dont know what to believe because i know someone who live right by where the kid get shot and they were saying opposite to the eye witness, a matter of fact theyre siding with the cops.
    And another thing sometimes it makes it so hard to side especially when you have some of these kids and grown people acting and behaving like thugs. I once had a kid threatening to “shot me” because he was standing in the way in MY BUILDING AND DIDNT WANT TO MOVE, now imagine if i had took the threat seriously, had a gun and just shoot when him stawt loud up pon mi an a bring gun argument to me??

    I used to go hard for my fellow blackmen and women but i stop, because i have witness a few instances where dem come fi jump ppl, cut up ppl and when the police were called, if the police werent black, the outcome would have been different because dem all wah beat the police, an even threaten fi come back fi di big woman weh call the police…….. im sorry, but i need more evidence here.

  • Met says:

    Toni Ann evening..what did the person say happened?

  • Toni Ann says:

    I live in a black neighborhood an im ashamed to say im scared of my own. them come and bruk di lock dem pan di doors, kick out the glass panels, drink, smoke and spit in the hallways, all even f— sometimes, an when yuh talk to dem bout the behavia dem all a move to yuh like dem wah harm yuh.
    I make sure pick my battles when it comes to go guilty, not guilty or may or may not done something to be shot by cops.
    I once was on the train and two bloods came on the train and was talking about “i feel like f—ing up a crip tonight,” “niggas dont want it, i feel like f—ing up someone on this shit,” now tell me now, yuh think dem behavia yah normal? what would you think and do in this position?
    animalistic behaviors breathe rooms for racists to justify their behavior. I suggest when your kids, man, cousin, father or sister etc start displaying these thuggish behaviors, stop filming it and frigging laughing likes it funny because this gives racist room fi seh wi a animal an wi deserve it.
    at 16 him shouldnt have any form of damn “sheet” except fi weh deh pon him bed, time fi dem educate an elevate dem self out of the slum projects and stop act like dem cannot do any better.

  • Toni Ann says:

    @met
    They said the kid did have something in is hand, they said they didnt want to say too much because they live in the neighborhood and that the kid is a hoodlum(how eva it spell) and they are not sorry. so its hard for me to say yay or nay. Like i said i witnessed dem behavior before and as soon as dem get dealt with its always “racism or police brutality.”
    Similar to the female that spat in the bus driver face, if the whole ordeal didnt get caught on camera you would of think the man is a monster, or the case with the jamaican guy at mcdonalds.
    By the way im not saying this kid deserve it.

  • Met says:

    Toni-Ann mi neva really seh nothing when I read this because Ive never heard of the police planting guns on anyone here before.Jamaica yes so I was waiting to see what else would be said

  • Met says:

    Toni Ann di police department seh it was justified and dem nah budge pan nothing else so lets see how it guh. His family has not really stepped forward dont?

  • sweet says:

    EVENING, YES MET POLICE IN THE UNITED STATES PLANT GUNS ON PEOPLE WHEN IT IS A UNJUSTIFIED HOMICIDE. THEM NO WAAN LOSE DEM WUCK. THEM SELL DRUGS, TEK HUSH MONEY, THIEF JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

  • Met says:

    Evening sweet mi neva hear bout the gun planting yet from Ive been here. Mi neva seh it cyah happen and yes mi know dem tek money because they have done it to my friend mi jus neva hear bout gun planting..mi hear bout assumptions of victims having guns but mi nuh ketch every news and nuh deh yah all my life suh mi miss nuff

  • Observer says:

    i doah want no one side wid mi pon nutten an mi naw luk no likes i’m not gonna put up wid f—ery ok…so em get killed an weh dem a guh duh run up n dung an gwaan wid a bag a vandalism n riot an expekk di police fi calm. Police dun hype alreadi an mi nuh noe weh di civilians dem war a guh duh fi bring peace to dis killing pleaseeeeee unnuh fi undastan unnuh self. GO ABOUT IT THE RIGHT WAY if unnuh feel like it unjustified.

    Met mor dan 2 ppl tel mi seh di police shout out numerous times “drop whats in your hand” an em put dung em handz a em side n a back up. Cmon now unnuh live inna crime neighborhood an di police supposedly nuh like unnuh alreadi PUT UP YUH HANDS FOOT EVRY THING INNA DI AIR N BAWL OUT SURRENDER OFFICER no gi dem nutten fi shoot yuh fah caw dem alreadi a shoot an ask question afta suh work wid di law but no now unnuh deh pona all out war zone an unnuh shall not win!!

    Yuh want justification? GO ABOUT IT THE RIGHT WAY. Gather your allies, speak with the appropriate representatives within your boro, make your voices be heard and strategize your plans.

  • Met says:

    Zervah most a who a demonstrate a blood like himself but if the police had to tell him drop whats in your hand him did draw fi di weapon then?

  • britbrit says:

    i am so sick of hearing about police killing our black youth .we as black people really have to do better how come we never hear about a white teen getting killed by police in bay ridge,bensonhurst or howard beach only where we live too me this is just another shooting that will go unjustified .f— around the pig’s will kill another person by summer time.

  • Observer says:

    but met a dat di young man seh weh did a pass em seh sumthin did inna di yute han but em caw tel wat it was neither cud di cop an dats y dem seh “drop what’s in your hand” di man seh very likkle street light did a shine suh em nuh noe ow dat lady c n ere so much. Em seh em deh pon street level as di cops n man an haffi draw fi cova. This bag a rioting nuh mek no sense but a suh dem walk n bad up ppl an tink di police a pet dem a doah care who n what nobaddi wah seh mi naw stand up n march fi no f—ery.

  • Toni Ann says:

    @Observer, than you very much.

    @Met
    I have been in America fi almost 2 decades and i never heard of planting of no gun, remember Sean Bell? they never planted any gun and they were dead ass wrong, remember that high school foot ball player? no planting of gun.

    By the way, rioting, steeling and terrorizing people, what a good way to prove his innocent? This is why I chose who to pick up for. And these bloods and crips and thugs what good do they serve to society or us black people?? two summers ago we were warned to stay inside after dark because bloods and crips were looking for easy targets to kill for initiation……… need i say more?? nuh man, dog or gal nuh badda dan death. Its time to start stand of for whats right and whats wrong and stop allowing racists to be racists..

  • Met says:

    Zervah smh smhhh dem jus unruly and waa riot dat is just all. Yes dem kill all di poor african yoot amado dialo because a him wallet and sean bell plus ramarley I feel dem deh so bad that not even read mi did read dem deh again after learning bout them the first time. But why him did have a gun pan him y?

  • Met says:

    Toni Ann the police are corrupt yes but they also know to an extent the public will out them..They will make excuses for their actions but mi neva hear no case whey dem seh gun draw and none nuh draw..only di poor african guy and his wallet..plus di haitian and den di spanish guy whey dem abuse but the truth did come out

  • Toni Ann says:

    @Observer
    yuh a seh every damn thing weh mi wah seh.

    dem act like damn animal all the time, an if yuh tell dem fi behave nicely dem want jump yuh. I ride with them, both young and old every day on the train, an when dem nah bounce yuh purposely, dem all wah fight yuh if yuh look pon dem.
    I was on my way to BK an trust mi, if i wasnt black, never know about racism, and met black people(some of them) for the first time, i would hate them cause the behavior is just god awful. And all this dam bloods and crips bull shit suh dem can kill off and terrorize dem own black brother and sister.

  • Observer says:

    mi seh met dem quik fi draw examples like ramarley, sean and others. THIS A TOTALLY DIFFRANTTTT THING. Em rong, dem rong n it dun.

  • Toni Ann says:

    @met
    they are very currupt, but nuh to di extent to plant gun, never heard of it but it can exist. all i ever hear dem seh is that “they thought is was a weapon, and order the suspect to drop it but they did not.”
    But Met, when di yankee did threaten fi shot mi an all sort of shit because mi tell him fi move out of the way, what do you think you would of done? because a string of things was going through my head. bet if i had the police and told them he threaten to ‘shoot me’ it would of went different? because if he said shoot him most likely had a gun right? and thats what a logical person would think.

  • Met says:

    Mi tell dem low Ramarley because dat one way outa dem ting.. These boys like to act tough fi prove pan people and one thing sure ina this life and is death but dem nuh remember that. Look how him look young ina him face and now his mom have this big heartbreak fi live wid fi di res a har life

  • Observer says:

    pon top a dat har second loss of a child..di way ow dem ge vile a di hospital all nurses n doctors ketch dem fraid dem too terble mel dem galong guh fite fire wid fire caw mr law deh deh fi dem

    poor ramarley run suh til caw em noe weh di police capable of a di poor ting get di shot rite inna di safest place em noe smh

  • Yep! says:

    One ting bout America….from yuh black yuh are automatically presumed guilty before proven innocent. It sad bad

  • Met says:

    a 2 kids the mother lose zervah?
    @Toni Ann a so dem gwaan and then when u mek a move to them people seh they are kids

  • Toni Ann says:

    @Met
    I once had a chic harass mi fi 2 years and even spat at me and threw hot coffee offa mi, and the minute i buss her ass she guh a station an all a threaten fi call immigration. Good thing police had record that she was harassing me and not the other way around.

    Untill i have more prove i will speak out fi Ramarley and Sean Bell and the other innocent slain black men.

  • Met says:

    Toni Ann :ngakak what did the police do?

  • Toni Ann says:

    @Met
    not a damn thing, i called them a total of almost 20 times and each time she fled the scene when they came, they told me to write down what she would say and do. she even threaten fi jump mi.
    but yuh know, i really dont think the police system sees every black person as thugs because not all of them are racists just like not all black persons are thugs. But its quantity or quality, you have so much black people that act steriotypically black to the point i think some of them even believe they cannot do or act any better.

  • Anonymous says:

    This kid was coming from a BABY SHOWER, earlier that evening.. ppl there knew he had a gun in his waist. whether he reached for the gun who knows, but at 16 n walking with a gun.. what other outcome will more likely hppn ?

  • STAR says:

    ToniAnn @655 I agree with you over 100% We as black people need to wake up and raise our kids rite. We same one as blacks afraid of them so what the hell you think a bundle of racist police going to doing YES SHOT THEIR ASS. These damn hoodrats need to control themselves from history we being treated with “racism or police brutality” so know yourself. They same one make “racism or police brutality” continue to hurt innocence people. I always say they dumb mother fu-kers they fu-k up their own neighbor hood and their own people but if they was so BAD go across town and fu-k with the jews and white community.

  • STAR says:

    MET we need to talk about where the like button is. Some topic need it

  • Foxy Lady says:

    Met, I’m torn on this. Maybe the police shot out of fear. Most people in the ghetto behave in a manner that is repulsive to us on every level. We end us despising them as black people, feeling embarrassed for them and avoid them at all cost. Some of them, just from view you can tell they either have a limiting life span or a lengthy prison term, however, I have a huge problem with the amount of black men that are murdered at the hands of police officers. Could he not have shot to injure him since the cop is a trained shooter? I have a huge problem with the notion that black men are disposable and they can be killed and nothing comes of it so I can never side with the cops.
    Too many innocent black men have lost their lives to police bullets based on nothing but racism.
    There are too many racist police officers with no respect for the black men for me to give them the benefit of the doubt.
    With that said, if people in the communities are not marching against the black on black crimes in their own neighborhoods, then how must I take them seriously when they start marching for an isolated incident in the grand scheme of things?

  • Met says:

    what i want to know is why he needed a gun mi still nuh get it…Just getting caught with an illegal firearm will guarantee you time , in 2009 the young guy of 25 died when he and his friends a try out gun whey dem get and it go off and travel go mash up him colon and he later died..guns are not toys

  • Foxy Lady says:

    I just read where someone stated he had a gun. What I would hate to happen, is for the killing of an armed thug to diminish the murders of the innocent men who’ve lost their lives at the hands of police officers.

    Life in certain parts is no life at all. Some of these kids are doomed by virtue of place of birth since the environment fosters negativity. I really pity these people because they are asleep, they cannot even value life. Their mentality is killed or be killed. Prison is a way of life. My heart goes out for these people but I don’t want them in my neighborhood and if they move in, I will move out.

    Met you read how that man was changing his 6 months old baby’s diaper in his car and thugs shot the baby 5 times and killed her so now the basketball player Derrick Rose is paying for the funeral.

    Den dem sey mi nuh like black people?!!!

  • Jules says:

    Soon di young black women who a look fi husbands wont be able to find any. Wid di black bwoy dem a kill off each odda, di police dem a do fiddem piece, who inna prison lack dung fi eternity, and who gay; it going to be a piece fi many a dese young girls find black husbands lata dung di road…dere just wont be enough fi go around.

  • Toni Ann says:

    @Foxy Lady
    heyyyy…. fighting for black on black crime should be the first to be dealt with. And its not just the ghetto alone, i used to live in one of those upscale neighborhood in ct and let me tell you, there was about 5 or suh black people and i cringed at the behavior, them affi outdone everything, from loud music to having multiple people coming over and smoking, drinking 40 oz on other people property because there was no fence. I and another black person sandwich this white lady who was robbed by no other than the black lady who made her friends broke in the woman house.

    im very scared of police, here in the united states and jamaica, and im even more scared of racists, but like i said, we keep giving these people the rights then complain…… ive been beating a dead damn horse, i made this speech a year or so ago, yall (not you all, them) call unuh self niggers and when racist and whites start getting brave and calling yall niggers on twitta, facebook etc den unuh a bawl out “racism,” well darnit, how are we gonna fight when we are part of the problem?

    @Star, at least a nuh me alone feel suh.

  • Foxy Lady says:

    Jules that’s the current problem, it’s here already. Statistics state that 70% of black women are single. That’s a high number.

  • Toni Ann says:

    @Foxy Lady
    Where dem born?? Mi affi laugh! where i grew up in CT they have every bit of opportunity and guessed what? 90% chose to floss an lollygag, lets just say by the time i hit 12 grade 90% of the blacks couldnt read, and a small amount of whites and spanish, very small amount.
    That excuse aint good when you have free schooling. I went through hell and back with my mother and not even that could stop me from going to college, and im in my late 20s, dat naah stop me from further my life.

    @jules
    Would you even want them anyway had they lived? Cause who want a damn thug? dunce? or someone who refuse to have a career?

    There is soooooo much good black men, but the quantity of bads make it seems as if there is none.

  • Jules says:

    Yep, Foxy..many a dem dreams of dem black prince will be dashed, they will have to find a partner outside of dem group fi experience love and marriage. I never thought I would live to see such times. Some have already resigned themselves to man-sharing, some a dem are even dating outright gay and bi-sexual men just fi say dem hab somebody.

  • Yep! says:

    All mi haffe seh bout dis whole ting is some black people stand fe mitten and fall fe any and everything; sometimes I am ashamed of how our black folks behave because t is a disgrace to decent black folks. Everything Toni Ann and Observah a seh is the gospel truth; sad part bout dis is….. Watch NAACP jump pan dis ya bandwagon in 5..4..3..2..1..

  • Yep! says:

    *some black people will stand fe nutten and fall fe anything

  • Foxy Lady says:

    Dreadful times Jules. I don’t know what to attribute this down low, bisexual, homosexual agenda to, but it’s sad.
    Jules right now, you’re safer going with a white man than a black man and you get treated better and your life will be much happier.
    Mi stop fight fi black people because they ain’t fighting for themselves and I’m worn out now.

  • Observer says:

    yes met she lost a son not long ago but to an accident this is her second lost but dah one yah a thuggy thug mi nah wata dung nutten em neva need no gun fi a wak wid pon road

  • STAR says:

    Bill Cosby say it over and over It starts in our home. How racist police officers going to think twice before them shot when we have these uneducated fools running around. God know sometimes it look like we have more bad than good.

  • Toni Ann says:

    No doubt that a lot of white people have this undercover savagery about them but against whom? not their own.
    But we? our savagery is against our own and when it does spill out against other races, they aint having it.
    I once heard a racist said “why do we even bother taunting these people, just sit back and watch them kill their selves, ahh, good old fashioned black on black crime.”

  • STAR says:

    shoot

  • JAHkno says:

    @Observer mi na condone d violent protest… dem can get dem point across in other ways oppose to ignorance. Dem mash up d ppl dem Rite Aid all tump dung d manger that was uncalled for and an arrest would have been justified in that case. All I’m saying is that I see firsthand what the NYPD carries on with and they are VERY corrupt. You hear about gang violence but they are just as involve in the gang bangin, drugs, and other detrimental setbacks to this neighborhood. What I would like to know is why were they pursuing this young man? He looked “suspicious”…….yeah along with 99 percent of inner city blacks….don’t? Did they let their authority be known to this young man before riddling him with over 10 bullets? I will not speak on the gun because there are too many stories being said. Lets raise our kids the right way and KEEP THEM OFF THE STREETS. Then again even when you are not a “thug” dem still disrespect you n wan bad u up in d most way. I believe in the theory of being a product of your environment it’s just unfortunate that he never got to make it out, or was given the chance to turn his life around. RIP Kimani Gray, in paradise where no dutty Babylon can dwell. N please let’s leave the judging to he who holds all final judgement and knows the hearts of all.

  • Observer says:

    my point exactly….not even sean weh get 50 nuh protest neva gwaan suh yes dung to his wife tameka had gotten arrested all sharpton but dat a becaz a blocking di street not caw a violence dem tek to di street like dem wah battle di police dem too bad n a act like dem nuh wah bak dung as met seh dem a same bloodz like di deceased dem nuh tek chat suh tek weh di police a gi den since dem well bad

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  • Toni Ann says:

    Al shapton a one piece of shit! only time him come forward an when him can get something out of it…… when have al sharpn come forward fi march or talk against B.O.B?
    We lost the fight when we give away our rights. we affi guh fine loop holes because we cannot break dis contract at all.

  • Met says:

    yes what became of that one where the lady was killed by them?

  • Foxy Lady says:

    @Toni ann
    You just confirmed what I stated by saying most blacks in your neighborhood cannot read. It is a fact that schools in the inner cities are substandard, over-crowded and lacking proper academic and musical materials.
    In my neighborhood, people don’t send their kids to private school because the schools are so great, that’s because the property taxes are high and the children receive superior education.
    This again is the reason why you cannot send your child to school in my neighborhood if you do not live here or else you will be arrested and given 12 years like that black woman in CT. It’s legal segregation. It’s all one big set up.
    You are the anomaly, while some people make it out and hold their heads up high, the majority take the path of least resistance and become products of their environment. Most people in the projects aren’t college educated, as a matter of fact only 50% graduate high school, which is why they are termed underclass. Your story is not the story of the majority. These people are doomed by place of birth. Many people were born in the projects, raised kids in the projects, their kids do the same and they don’t even envision getting out.

  • Foxy Lady says:

    @Toni Ann, just because someone moves out of the ghetto doesn’t mean they have acquired some class. Living in a nice neighborhood in CT and blasting the loud music etc. just means a hood rat is about to devalue the neighborhood. When those types move in, the others move out. So saying it’s not just ghetto people that behave like that is not true, such behavior is limited to hood rats and trailer park trash alike.
    Where a person might move to, is no indicator of who they intrinsically are.
    A person born and bred in that neighborhood abhors noise and would have too much respect for them-self and neighbors to carry on in such manner.

  • Mothers must luk listen and learn says:

    I was speaking on this incident as it happen and I said …Mothers cant blame fathers , schools, society or anyone else but themselves for the up bringing of their child. The old saying is “mommys baby..daddy maybe” we females have to watch our child from birth and threw out the years. The first tantrum your child has and we laugh like its funny, buying all these gun and killing video games, following every clothing trend these so called gangster rapper have. Then we wonder why they become “bad”…Yes killing no one is justified. But what if he had killed the pregnant woman at the shower by “mistake” or a child or even one of us? would we protest for him? would we call him a child? Since he’s a child why he’s smoking weed? why he’s in a gang? all these unanswered questions?….First thing if he “went to a baby shower” where’s the adult who went with him? And as for having a rap sheet at that age, I personally have one word for him BOOTCAMP…I won’t sit back and act like my child is an angel when the devil horns are sticking out everywhere. Take charge of your children’s life they are not responsible for themselves. No one is perfect so i won’t say show me your company and that’s who you are. But don’t cry when the milk is split contain it first. I refuse to protest for his death! White or Black cop I don’t care! I drove 4hrs to the Bronx for Romarley and 5 for Sean Bell…@ observer two wrongs will never make right…like Toni say we ourselves are scared of them… they all want to be glorified after death. I’m a youth counselor and that’s all they dream of death… not living..Mi dun me have School tomorrow…cho!

  • Mothers must luk listen and learn says:

    Sidebar …. notice how they “tweet and instagram” everything they do….
    Look who our children wants to be like…Kim K ….Little Wayne..etc…not there mothers or fathers or an aunt or uncle… we have a generations of followers…I’m so mad I can’t even sleep..

  • Foxy Lady says:

    It’s easier said than done @Mothers must luk listen and learn.
    Unless the mother is on welfare, she will have to go to work and that child without the presence of a father will be left alone being raised by BET, MTV, rap music and the neighborhood. It’s easier to control a girl child than a boy. After they reach a certain age, the mother cannot control them when they are hellbent on taking the wrong path. Boot camp doesn’t accept your child just because you think he needs it. That child has to acquire a certain number of points in the system before he qualifies for boot camp. Acquiring a certain number of points has to do with the amount of times he’s been arrested and the gravity of the crime. The system is idiotic and works against the youths. At that point, many who have acquired enough points for boot camp ironically have committed such grave crimes that they are now eligible to be charged as adults or locked away in the correctional system.

    Accepting that fathers are non existent and it falls on the shoulders of the mother is twisted. Black men need to be men and raise their sons so these boys have real men to emulate and to admire rather than the thugs on the streets who fill the paternal void.

    A woman can do her best but many of these mothers in the projects are just as lost as the children, they listen the same music, they revere Nicki Minaj so the cycle repeats itself. The problem is not limited to mothers, rather it’s systemic.

    This is the life and the story of the black youths that live in the projects. Their mentality is completely different from ‘normal’ people. Their outlook on life is limited to some Air Jordans and selling small packets of dope on the corner. It’s what they see, it’s their reality. So while we sit and knock his mother and the fact that he has a rap sheet, the problems transcend that and are deep rooted and sired in the psyche of the underclass.

  • JAHkno says:

    Morning Met. As for Shantel Davis her family is still waiting for justice. The detective (who has a record of ill treatment in the neighborhood) is still at post working.

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